blunderbuss2 5 years ago. Pasted as rich text. The A.E.F. Lincolnshire Regiment who died 05/03/1916 CITE BONJEAN MILITARY CEMETERY, ARMENTIERES France '
The story, for many years I wanted a bog standard WW2 Cdn pattern helmet for my collection, mainly a display piece. dailyinfo[25]=' 262952 Private Archibald Stanley BURGNEAY 8th Bn. Thanks for these pictures! dgirardin 11 months ago. We live day by day, and I always say: yesterday is history, today's reality, and tomorrow's a dream.' You can post now and register later. dailyinfo[20]=' 10259 Private Charles BUCHANAN 1st Bn. In fact they all look the same to me apart from the liners 5 seconds on the google http://thebrodiehelmet.weebly.com/. dailyinfo[16]=' 22659 Serjeant George SNELL Military Medal "T" Bty. Helmets such as this did not leave the factory this way. The helmet istself is a Mk.1* but i have looked and cannot find any manufacturer stamps on either the helmet or liner/strap. Article about: Hi everybody i found this helmet while i'm surfing on the net. The PASGT helmet was a new generation of combat helmet, being made from nineteen layers of Kevlar, a light-weight synthetic fibre material which offered higher levels of protection than the manganese-steel alloy from which the M1s had been manufactured. 100% refund policy on all items returned within 30 days. Royal Warwickshire Regiment who died 12/03/1918 ST. Copyright Treasure Bunker Ltd The helmet was basically an inverted bowl stamped out of a single piece of manganese alloy, which was made up of 13 percent manganese and was .036" thick. The result in 1940 was the M1, which was effectively an altered version of the M1917. var year=mydate.getYear()
Middlesex Regiment who died 25/02/1921 LADYWELL CEMETERY United Kingdom '
However, he has recently discovered that apparently all Brodie and Mk.I helmets were pressed by Joseph Sankey and Sons, so the the initials simply indicate the steel supplier. Display as a link instead, This cloth by it very nature blended in well and covered up any shiny paint on the helmets finish. BASICALLY A DESCRIPTION OF HOW THE WW1 MKI BRODIE EVOLVED INTO THE WW2 MK2 STEEL HELMET,VIA THE INTER WAR MK1* VERSION..AND HOW TO TELL THEM APART.EACH HELMET WILL ALSO HAVE ITS INDIVIDUAL. Its becoming more popular. Surely there is only one Great War Forum!!! Vimyridge23 April , 2010 in Uniforms,Cap Badges and Insignia. What pattern of helmet is this, and given the unusual markings, is it a valuable relic, or is it some fantasy piece suitable to be stripped and restored to issue green? dailyinfo[12]=' 457 Lance Corporal Arthur Price ROWE 2nd/7th Bn. The asbestos pad is quite safe it is only the thickness of thick paper, my only doubt is the chin strap mounts they are, riveted the British used split pins. Eventually all his knowledge will be distilled in a book. worked in or simply that he worked in a department in a parliamentary house, it's speculative at best I know ?. Worcestershire Regiment who died 23/02/1915 LOKER CHURCHYARD Belgium '
I think I'll be doing more Vietnam stuff. Clear editor. 3rd Bn. It's definitely a British Mk I helmet. dailyinfo[15]=' SS/342 Able Seaman Henry George SMITH (RFR/CH/B/5534). dailyinfo[27]=' 5778 Private William CUMMINGS 6th Bn. "Foyle." Original WW1 US English AEF 79th ID British BRODIE M1916 Tommy 79 Helmet. The design of the helmet is familiar to anyone who has seen a First World War movie. Leinster Regiment who died 27/02/1918 JERUSALEM MEMORIAL Israel and Palestine (including Gaza) '
Unfortunately, your registration has been declined by the auctioneer. A quick examination of an original example and the brush strokes can easily be seen. They also have a similar liner and chinstrap. With a liner most HS shells are running around $150.00 on most sites. dailyinfo[28]=' 19673 Leading Aircraftman Samuel Ambrose TICKNER Meritorious Service Medal No. Highland Light Infantry who died 19/03/1915 LE TOURET MEMORIAL France '
A few have turned up with manufacture marks similar to those found on British shells A number of firms made P17s for the U.S. Military. Head Gear POOR MANS MILITARIA. dailyinfo[1]=' Staff Nurse Edith Mary CAMMACK Associate of the Royal Red Cross, 2nd Class 4th Southern Gen. Hos. Canucks? . var daym=mydate.getDate()
And use of the M1 helmet did not end in 1945; far from it. America ended up purchasing roughly 400,000 Brodie helmets from the British and produced over 2,700,000 M1917 helmets by the war's end. I'm putting in a picture. Though we never call it that. I bought it in France and I really don't know what kind of brodie is it and which army used it. dailyinfo[22]=' 25368 Quartermaster Serjeant Leonard Henry CADE Meritorious Service Medal 12th Coy. I'm sorry I could not find a post 1916 stamp (see below for two examples of post Aug 1916 stamps. dailyinfo[8]=' 13277 Labourer Klaas NERO South African Native Labour Corps who died 08/03/1917 PUGU ROAD 1914-1918 MEMORIAL Tanzania '
The British cleverly dealt with this problem by issuing their men with a Hessian cloth cover. Imperial Russian Adrian helmet. Only a few very minor details set them apart from each other. (Salonika) Territorial Force Nursing Service who died 01/03/1918 KNOWLE (SS. As for the number/letter code, that is the code for the manufacturer and the manufacturer's lot number. Some American helmets tend to be a darker olive color, while others have paint identical to their British counter parts. The Brodie helmet was designed by John Leopold Brodie, a Lithuanian entrepreneur and inventor who had first made his fortune working the gold and diamond mines of South Africa in the 1890s and 1900s and had then moved to Britain. leon21 I would say the paintwork on your helmet is original. and Gen. Hos. A heat stamp of 50A with an 'S' beneath it on a Schlueter manufactured helmet. They were produced Nov.1940 thru May 1941.
The Spanish helmet had a great deal of German influence because Germany equiped the Spanish armed forces during its civil war. Consequently a plastic liner, engineered by the car company, General Motors, was introduced, and it was this method, albeit with some alterations to the chin straps and other accoutrements, which was employed for decades in conflicts such as the Korean War and the Vietnam War. By 1916, Brodie helmet . Royal Horse Artillery who died 21/02/1917 GUARDS CEMETERY, COMBLES France '
dailyinfo[13]=' 37643 Sapper Thomas John ECCLESTON Tunnelling Coy. Royal Army Medical Corps who died 22/02/1919 NUNHEAD (ALL SAINTS) CEMETERY United Kingdom '
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Depots simply would repaint helmets where the paint had lost its anti-reflective properties with an extremely heavy gravel finish. Unlike the ubiquitous Stahlhelm which had been developed by the Germans around the same time the Brodie did not have a nape piece extending further down at the back to protect the neck, however, it did offer greater all round protection from shrapnel descending down into the trenches. Generally soldiers were still being issued cloth caps or leather headgear of a kind which offered little or no protection from modern artillery and the shrapnel which sprayed out from it. The British helmet is made from 21 gauge steel, while the American helmet is made from 19 gauge steel. We offer a 100% return policy. var mydate=new Date()
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W. = Westinghouse Electric Co - Pennsylvania. Looks like an original Mk2 shell, obviously repainted. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, "I pressed forward with the others to watch the United States physically entering the War, so god-like, so magnificent, so splendidly unimpaired in comparison with the tired nerve-racked men of the British Army. Frankston RSL Sub Branch Munition, German 75 mm. Sign up for a new account in our community. MSA.
Soldiers wearing the recently issued Brodie helmet on the Western Front, 1916 More details: NAM. var mydate=new Date()
About this item Reproduction of the World War Two British Brodie Helmet complete with a sprung webbing chin strap. 2nd Bn. Is it a WWI or WWII helmet? liners in them, so it would not matter if you were to put an other makers liner in it as long as it's the same date as the shell. (Salonika) Territorial Force Nursing Service who died 01/03/1918 KNOWLE (SS. In all around 900,ooo of these helmets were made by McCord's. [1] Contents 1 Background Missing the chinstrap and liner. Also on the remains of the liner there should also be a date/maker name. The cover was made from the same type of cloth the sand bags the held up the trench wall were made of. The sellers description may read, American WWI helmet or British WWI helmet. The helmet was manufactured in just one stamping procedure. Whether it be a small antique shop, militaria show or even an online auction. Indeed, a domestically produced version of the M1 is still in use today amongst the Indian armed forces, as well as several other countries such as Vietnam, Turkey and Colombia, albeit often in a ceremonial capacity. British Mark I Brodie Helmet. Powered by Invision Community, US WW1 and WW2 Brodie Helmets and Maker Stamps. The chinstrap was secured directly to the helmet brim and the liner was held into the skull with a single rivet on the top. It also depends on where the helmet came from, are you inthe US? . I suppose your cousins in the US would call it Tommy helmet the Germans went for salad bowl. View detail. Sorry for the long post and thanks for any info you can give me. This helmet was called The Helmet, Steel, Mark I but is also sometimes referred to as the Brodie steel helmet or the Brodie Mark I helmet. It was replaced by the M1917AI. //-->, By dailyinfo[17]=' PLY/3566 Private Samuel ROBINSON H.M.S. As usually occurs during such periods of protracted stability, investment in innovations in military equipment was limited and there was no real urgency to develop new weapons and protective equipment. I would leave the chin strap that is original, it's up to you what you want to do, with the helmet shell, it would have had an originalBMB liner dated the same as the shell, but I've seen BMB helmets with other maker. Liner Fibre M-1. Welcome to the forum SR71, there's not much to go on without it's liner. The British effort to do so would result in the Brodie. Firth & Sons. Please consider supporting our videos on Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/simplehistoryThe British Helmet in World War IJohn L. Brodie had invented and patente. 354.85 Buy It Now. The most obvious difference may be observed by turning the helmet over. If it's a highly desirable unit it drives the price up. Most American helmet do have heating lot numbers.
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WW1 BRITISH BRODIE Helmet SOMME relic - 60.00. The Both the liners and the chinstrap on the British and its American cousin are almost identical. It looks like it's stamped 'JSS' above the date marking, which is the maker's mark for Joseph Sankey & Sons Ltd, who produced helmet shells from 1938 to 1941. Northamptonshire Regiment who died 14/03/1915 LE TOURET MEMORIAL France '
He worked at the Houses of Parliament (I cant quite remember what position he held but I will ask my step father tomorrow) and he was good friends with Sir Winston Churchill and attended various dinners with him, one of which we have the original letter and menu for. Was wondering if anyone could give some more info on it. stepback_antiques 12 years ago. The color of paint used by both the British and American manufactures do show some similarity. Though I do not know the code for the manufacturers. Worcestershire Regiment who died 23/02/1915 LOKER CHURCHYARD Belgium '
Hi J.H.E. My buddy has a Brodie Helmet which he might be offering for sale. Here's one I've have had in my collection for many years is this with the steel rim and second pattern liner, i would say unissued , not sure if it was for the Americans or New Zealand troops, but the main printed label is not easily read .it still maintains the crown label , the white doggy bone looking mark was on there when i got it,maybe a clumsy decorator ? var dailyinfo= new Array(31)
The original and very distinctive steel helmet adopted by Great Britain was designed and patented in 1915 by its inventor, John L Brodie. Commonly referred to as the "Kelly" between 1932 and 1936 the M1917 and the British MK1 helmets in America. He was in his early forties when the war broke out and he turned his attentions to developing a military helmet along the lines that the French had just produced with the Adrian helmet. shells were re-used by the civil defence services. During the war, the Company took part in fire watching duties, manned a gun at the exit to Westminster Underground Station and undertook a wide variety of training schemes. The M1 was only finally replaced as the standard issue military helmet for the United States armed forces in 1983, over forty years after it first entered mass production.