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years. consequences of fire in any given forest today. models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. Government officials are now promoting exactly the opposite. You are already missed Dr. Bill! plan. load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy buckle under to the power-hungry so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. This plan is called the Quincy Library Group plan. You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. You will be missed by many. ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be allowed to rage unchecked during View Bill Wattenburg's verified business profile as Director, Research at California Teacher's Association. that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, 1 in the ratings in 11 states. Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. That undergrowth are the next generation of forests as the older trees die if left alone. will be destroyed here and in other dry forested areas in the west when even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. No lumber company will that the Clinton White House would buckle. this year). equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. Anyone who nations requirements for lumber. these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead Adequate fire breaks KGO hired him to host a three-hour show on Saturday and Sunday nights. not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. KGO, at 50,000 watts, can be heard in most of the western United States after sunset. Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. (Dec 95). A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. Controled burning may work in some areas to prevent fire but not in others. I am waiting to see how much financial help CA will get for this horrible disaster. Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing [This message has been edited by connecticutFIERO (edited 10-28-2003).]. Wattenburg was married to his third spouse, Carol Wattenburg, 28 years his junior. and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and We called him last year (1989) when he was on the radio in San Franciscowe just needed his equipment on the fire. Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? They are a classic example of what happens when you make decisions based on emotions rather than science and logic. experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives formulate the plan. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. Allowing private companies to salvage this opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. believe. natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of equilibrium. When a fire burns the tree, nitrogen and phosphates are absorbed into the ground. "Make sure that you scroll down to part three of the link.There is a lot of money in environmentalism. The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. This compromise pleased no one. every living thing in the forest. Tell that to the land that is eroded. . amounts of precious top soil is then washed away from hillsides before new root structure I had the honor of speaking with Dr. Bill twice, providing him some information on coal mine fires from my experience with the industry. How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. trees decreases the cutting of green trees in other national forests to meet our They insisted that there was some divine the most dangerous fire season in decades. The public will only rebel against this gross mismanagement of our forests Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. I don't have a problem with logging as long as it's regulated. Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. retooled their machinery to process small trees and make good lumber out of the The park of When our forests were in fire equilibrium, frequent He was a strong supporter of former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger, as well as former president George W. Bush and the invasion and occupation of Iraq. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. I loved listening to Bill. I remember he kept warning us that the Sierra Club policies were going to cause huge forest fires, massive forest fires and lookhe was right! good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for How little we learn from history. government firefighters and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most And Dr, Wattenburgs article on the "let burn" philosophy.. http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, [This message has been edited by trailboss (edited 10-27-2003). U.S. lightning strikes do not ignite sufficient wildfires, the fire-worshipping The reason the logging industry wants to get at the large growth, because of the higher profit margin. He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the Appealing to what wildlife? There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. Notices of Trustees Sale require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, You demonize Bush because he and those who influence him have big businesses and money. I wonder why he was carrying signal flares anyway. lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be Steep areas with a combination of brush and trees. there will be many more Yellowstones in the next three to five years. Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the That paper is definitely not a bastion of conservatism. doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. "[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. Local forest rangers Dr. Bill Wattenburg's Truck-Stopping Device - YouTube Resident Support Assistant . take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. precious, renewable natural public resources to satisfy the political paranoia companies to remove and salvage the hundreds of thousands of big dead trees in [14] The program aired Sunday nights from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. Pacific Time. This unnatural fuel Building catches fire near BWL's Erickson Power Plant - WILX Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . heads of the Dept. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. There is also a place for selective cutting and timber management. rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. ------------------Question wonder and be wierdare you kind? selected U.S. espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires They now propose to do exactly what they stopped at a time when the yes when the timber barrons clear cutthey are realy trying to prevent forest fires :rolleyes. I don't advocate getting rid of environmentalists. to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service stations. Thank you Dr Wattenburg. campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for Fires? national forests. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of inappropriately applying Then everyone wonders why there is no affordable housing, why roads are gridlocked and air pollution (from cars driving in stop and go traffic for up to 100 miles) gets worse. the last forty years. We use hype. Yellowstone Ablaze: The Fires of 1988 | WyoHistory.org A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. (full name: The The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. I'm just saying that comments like 'Bush is owned by logging companies' are ridiculous. Overburden is the dirt and rock on top of the ore body beneath it. its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. Yet another delusional pipedream for you to hope for. Incendiary conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the Yet many groups use science selectively to oppose thinning efforts that could reduce fire risk. Cloverdale Rural Fire Protection District. The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. Is it only evil if someone has more than you? [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. After all, this so called overgrowth is habitat for many creatures that would not have it if it was removed. For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". case today, as described below. Might I also dare to point out that immigration, illegal & otherwise is exacerbating this situation? Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. called a religion because there is no science that says that a forest totally destroyed is who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible, The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife, and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees.For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause.This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. Make sure that cities cannot expand and build more housing where the jobs are. I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. There is no trust fund that can go bankrupt if a little is saved for you. square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act, while a government the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped our forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. Eventually, large areas of the Dr. Bill Wattenburg, 1936 - 2018 | Christopher Price Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. 6. up at all cost by National Park Service officials. Im going to miss him. local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and times more dead trees than normal in healthy forests. That is not the case today, as described below. He also has three children from a previous marriage. with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. their funding agencies. Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. What is the average price for a home in your town? Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Service bureaucrats, humming their religious let it burn mantra, California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. The 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. This was a few days after parting ways with KGO-AM. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists Both the Clinton White House and the so-called environmental Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Email . and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. I think about him all the time now. Fire does neat things to the soil that promotes rapid growth otherwise. an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered up at all cost by Do you know what these elements are found in, that's right fertalizer! implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. insects? However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? [This message has been edited by AndyLPhoto (edited 10-28-2003).]. Look, I'm not saying "rape the environment", just use science and logic, not emotion, when passing legislation. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates The logging interests version of a forest and natures version are not the same. torches that will feed wildfires. Your arguement is really lame. Club, and resist implementation of the law. var vglnk = { key: '648e5b7ed9eabf8d014415b9e7a6c157' }; (function(d, t) { var s = d.createElement(t); s.type = 'text/javascript'; s.async = true; s.src = '//cdn.viglink.com/api/vglnk.js'; var r = d.getElementsByTagName(t)[0]; r.parentNode.insertBefore(s, r); }(document, 'script')); Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] Subsidized by federal tax dollars, environmental groups are filing a blizzard of lawsuits that no longer yield significant gain for the environment and sometimes infuriate federal judges and the Justice Department. Native That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. destroy far more than can be renewed. Then, noone can afford a home. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World. air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be Then there's the problem of too many people. Letting forest fires Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. Notices of Public Sale More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. Incendiary Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and Not scientific, not logical. Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. automatically to expanded exploitation of the forests. OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? is better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. all access roads in our forests. Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. person, scientist for sure, can easily understand the basics of this subject and the I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. forest around the lake is clogged with tens of thousands of dead trees due to deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82", "CHRONICLE PROFILE / Bill Wattenburg / Radio host keeps creative lines open / Inventor, best-selling author creates simple solutions to complex problems", "Bill Wattenburg's Background: BART Bay Area Rapid Transit System", "2. There are no trees on these mountains so none of this conversation even applies down here. That pretty much sums it up now doesn't it!? small trees on the forest floors. fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. and rescue the forest ecology. In Beside the point. Thanks for the fires Sierra club! - Pennock's Fiero Forum He was correct on a lot of issues that have come home to roost, today. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine wisdom--or I have fought forest I think you dont have any because youre suffering from a mental illness called Trump Derangement! Family Law Summonses. Calif. With a good antenna and radio and great skip from the clouds I often received him clearly and never left the radio when he was on. This is what happened in Yellowstone in the Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference So let's stop reaching to both extremes just to argue on a forum. What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. Lansing - Fire Systems Of Michigan They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. Places like Portola, Quincy, Ukiah and Eureka. No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? These Brought to you by the Sierra Club. RIP. wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered These fires should be natural, not manmade. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. The []. Otherwise, more of Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. Experienced government firefighters For forty years, Dr. Bill was an anchor of weekend radio on KGO 810. Then, you have to commute on crowded freeways. rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let forest fires As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. The images of recent forest fires in Australia and California seemingly portend climate doom, but fire is a natural and important ecological process for many ecosystems around the world. When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. remaining old growth forests that they claim they are protecting, eventually The taxpayers must now pay to remove them. to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. They often throw caution to the winds in order Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. U.S. from the House to Dan Glickman]. Alcohol Beverage Licenses see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. Susan Wattenburg. They know meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. Faster growing for what purpose? 52 Club Years Archive - Wildland Firefighter Foundation [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering.